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Post by Monica Guo on May 26, 2013 17:23:19 GMT
For me Unit 3 is quit fun.Because it is the first time that I know the word "style" in English writing. When I did the questionnaire which Jordan (1987) did. I thought grammer was the most biggest challenge for international students and to be honest I didn't pay much attention to style.However the table shows that 92% of tutors believed that style was the most important thing that we have to be careful. I think style is the skill that can help us more like native-writers.Just practice vocabulary and grammer are not enough, we have to read more books writed by British writers and National Geography also can help us a lot.
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Post by Chiaki Hiramatsu on May 26, 2013 20:38:59 GMT
Unit 3: thinking about your writing
Difficulties facing International students
Grammar and vocabulary can be one of the problems for International students when they write in English, however, these are not likely to be the most problems.
Since International students are used to writing in a different academic style they learnt in their home countries, it may take time to get used to the new way of writing, which could be the most problems.
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Post by Chiaki Hiramatsu on May 26, 2013 20:39:16 GMT
Unit 3: thinking about your writing
Difficulties facing International students
Grammar and vocabulary can be one of the problems for International students when they write in English, however, these are not likely to be the most problems.
Since International students are used to writing in a different academic style they learnt in their home countries, it may take time to get used to the new way of writing, which could be the most problems.
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Post by Masayo Sakamoto on May 26, 2013 21:12:20 GMT
I do not think that international students' difficulties with grammar and vocabulary cause them the most problems when writing in English. I realized this because in the class, we had a chance to review other students’ essay, and what I noticed most was the problem of structure of the essay, not the grammar or vocabulary although there might be many mistakes in them.
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Post by zijie on May 27, 2013 19:41:15 GMT
It was surprise that I saw the result coming from students. In fact, I agree with the tutors' views that style should be the most difficult thing for international students. I did not know the conception of style before I coming to the UK. When I check my English writing which finished before I coming to the KCL now,I find a great number of style mistakes. Thus, though I have some other problems in English, I rank STYLE as the first place of the form.
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Post by tedyip on May 27, 2013 21:40:12 GMT
For me, it is quite difficult to write in an correct order and in an formal British academic essay style. I quite agree that the grammar and the vocabulary are the important to write the essay because it takes a long time for you to change your writing habits but it is easy to change the writing methods according to the more academic way. And also I really need to focus on the writing way. The tutor commented my essay as an conversational writing. And I should avoid using the oral words instead of the academic words.
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Post by Takako Murakami on May 31, 2013 6:42:33 GMT
This unit is quite interesting for me. Writing essay is very important skills for academic perpose. Although I have already learned how to write the accadimic writing in Japan, this unit was really helpful to remeind me of writing style.
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Post by Janelle Kang on Jun 5, 2013 10:31:53 GMT
In my own opinion, STYLE is one of the most singnificant problems to our international students, like Monica said. For example, In china, we prefer using circumlocutions to express an opinion other than using a directly way, which means i usually talk,talk,talk, but there is no core point in an essay at all.I think that i already give a lot of information about one topic, actually the teachers or readers could not understood what did i mean. As to the English grammer and vocabulary, it might be not the most difficult problems for us, but we also make mistakes on that. Such as VERB TENSE, PLURALS,the importance of this some problems which may be showed in our academic essay occasionally can never be exaggerated.
Learning from others who shoe an excelent performance in academic writing and getting the most language import by reading may be the good ways to improve our writting skill.
I am also not good at writting, usually made a lot lot lot lot of mistakes in my essay,haha:)
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Post by Hanako Senoo on Jun 5, 2013 12:59:45 GMT
Before coming to the UK, I thought vocabulary was the most significant improvement(to get higher score in IELTS) however, now I have recognised that style is the biggest problem for me in the first essay which we did on 2nd of May. Hope I could have improved style for first 4 weeks but I still continue with making effort to write British academic style.
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Post by Keisuke Yoshida on Jun 6, 2013 16:00:49 GMT
Presumably, grammar and vocabulary may cause some problems, however, personally I believe that difference between UK academic writing and academic writing of other country may cause the biggest problem. By this I mean, the style or method of writing is the most important.
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Post by tinaqiuluhuang on Jun 8, 2013 23:25:40 GMT
I think the most big writing problem for me is the grammar mistakes. On one hand I have to improve my grammar knowledge, on the other hand, I should reread everything I writing again before finish it or send to the teacher. And I am weak at vocabulary as well.
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Post by KORN (PONGSAYA PIMOLSINDH) on Jun 13, 2013 17:18:00 GMT
I also agree with most of my friend. I think the serious concerns are grammar, vocabulary and style. This is because it's really difficult to use properly. For grammar is likely a little mistake that can easily fix. However, style and vocabulary are required long time and experience to cope with.
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Post by bua [Busakorn Prabnasak] on Jun 13, 2013 20:59:25 GMT
In my opinion, the most important issue for my writing is organising ideas. I always confused about how to write the topic sentence. Some times I have 2 main ideas in one paragraph or give some example which is not relate to the topic sentence. This quite different from my language because in Thai writing we always write a large number of words or sentences to explain one idea but in English, students have to show their ideas clearly in a few sentences. Moreover, academic vocabularies are also my potential issue because it is difficult for me to use synonyms. However, I try to do more practice to solve these problems.
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